User talk:SageM

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Hi, welcome to ! Thanks for your edit to the Papi page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! Netherith (talk) 07:24, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

Say, SageM, it's me, CrystalStorm51. I know this is a different topic than what is supposed to be on this Wiki, but I have been thinking of starting a new Superpower Wikia site, one with less restrictions than the ones currently on Superpower Wiki. Wanna join in? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 03:27, July 19, 2017 (UTC)

Why are you removing the categories ?
Sorry, but why are you removing the villains chategories ? Ok, maybe I was a little hasty, but basically such a category makes sense. User: 84.174.117.225     10:11, January 30, 2021

Those users aren't remotely villains. Mr President is just rude and annoying, and he makes multiple mistakes. But he is the reason why some of the monster girls are even IN the story in the first place.

The Purse Thief? Seriously? A thief is not a villain, putting aside the fact he only makes a short appearance in the story its not enough to even remotely qualify him as either an antagonist or a villain.

And Nega-Suu's only act is injuring Kimihito, but its possible that it lacks sapience or even self awareness. Which means it cannot be labeled as anything along those lines. You apparently didn't even bother to even read the manga or the articles, did you?

I own 15 Volumes in the german version and have read them very often and also know the english versions. Please don't say that, it's not nice. It is important to be polite, regardless of your own personal opinion. But I basically agree with you on Mr. President and Nega-Suu (although Nega_Suu is really close to the border). The Purse Thief can be seen as a villain, after all, he tried to injure Centorea with the sword or maybe even kill him. He would not have succeeded, because the sword was a fake, but he still had the intention. User: 84.174.117.225 21:10, January   30, 2021

Nega Suu-isn't on the border, because the attack on Kimihito and Suu was not a deliberate act. Nega-Suu's only interactions are with Suu and Mr President, so there isn't any way to clarify that the way it behaved is anything other then an Instinctual reaction of a slime doing what it does best....absorb, grow, and learn.

while it might have come across as rude, the point stands that Nega-Suu is not a villain and cannot be quantified in such terms. Nega-Suu/Black Slime never had the chance to develop a personality or sense of awareness, so its actions do not come across as villainous or antagonistic. Its like saying that a Great White Shark is evil because it sometimes eats people, even though it lacks the sense of self to allow to fall into such a category. If some only relies on its on inherent natural instincts, then you can't label it as good, evil, indifferent or amoral. Because those terms only apply to something that is capable of understanding its own nature and place in society/the world.

Next time you make judgement's like that, please review the article entirely to ensure that the user actually belongs in the category. Because most of the time your only looking at the surface instead of beneath it. Or in other words, your missing the forest for the trees.21:26, 30 January 2021 (UTC)SageM
 * Not directly related but it might be best to label your comments so there's no confusion about who's saying what. On the topic at hand however, I'm not sure "Villains" should even be a category for this series. My main issue is that the definition given pretty much excludes non-recurring characters:"This Category is for all antagonists and villains in Monster Musume. It should be noted that only characters count who continue to adhere to their intentions, which is why Mero`s Mother, for example, does not count, as she was an antagonist but ultimately gave up her goals."
 * This is a problem seeing as there are only four antagonists that appeared across multiple chapters and volumes: Draco, Lilith, P.O.R.K. though only their leader and the racist couple. Now P.O.R.K.'s leader and racist couple are undoubtedly assholes and likely irredeemable, this is a moot point however as the latter are also implied to be dead while the former was presumably deported with his group seemingly defunct.


 * Draco and Lilith on the other hand are more complicated. Yes Draco was shown as dangerous in her first appearance, comparable to Killa in terms of threat in fact. In every subsequent appearance however, the threat has been dialed back considerably due to how ineffectual she ends up being in said appearances not to mention she does attempt to redeem herself at one point and isn't as aggressive in her efforts afterward raising questions of how much longer is she going to adhere to her intentions, especially when each attempt goes progressively worst for her.


 * And while Lilith is seemingly characterized as a troublemaker, we see that Devils in general tend to cause problems just because of their nature as a species so you run into the same issue as Nega-Suu even if she does have slightly more culpability than the Black Slime in her actions. It's also worth remembering that the M.O.N. member Doppel is also notorious for causing trouble for other characters, it's just that her targets are usually antagonists themselves including both Lilith and Draco. Therefore it is entirely possible for Lilith to channel her instincts and talents into a productive outlet as Doppel has.


 * What's more both of these characters have someone actively pushing them into redemption: Their probation officer Polt who's considerably adherent to her intent of reforming them and assuming she ultimately succeeds, you won't be able to call either antagonists anymore let alone outright villains. Chimera-gui (talk) 23:28, 30 January 2021 (UTC)


 * I second Chimera-gui's argument on all points, especially for Draco and Lilith. Weredraco (talk) 01:55, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I feel like we can safely remove the category altogether since antagonists usually present little continuous threat for various reasons given. Chimera-gui (talk) 00:17, 31 January 2021 (UTC)