User talk:Chimera-gui

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Netherith (talk) 13:34, August 15, 2018 (UTC)

RE: sorry
Eh, it's fine. I figured you did something like "control-f" to easily change them all which made you miss one that shouldn't be changed (yet). Anyway, thanks for fixing those names. I had totally forgotten we hadn't done that yet. Timjer (talk) 22:00, March 9, 2019 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. 00:03, March 10, 2019 (UTC)

Question
Why can´t translate the wiki into german ? Is that protection? I think that´s a shame.
 * You'd have to ask an actual adminstrator, I have no control over this. 14:37, June 18, 2020 (UTC)

Why did you undo my edits?
Why did you undo my edits? Because actually it is really very unlikely that Mil, Cream, Cara, Urt and Chizu allowed them to be milked by the Satyr girls and therefore continued to use the milking machines. Even with Merino and Cathyl it is obvious that under no circumstances did they allow themselves to be milked by the Satyr girls.

And the Trivia point with Cream is also correct, taking into account Camembert, the minotaurine with the second smallest breasts of the ranch, cream´s breast size must now be between 99 cm and 105 cm. And due to her rivalry with Nubi, Cream never let the Satyr girls milk her.

Why did you undo my edits? I see no reason for it.
 * Except your statement is directly contradicted by the shot of everyone but Cathyl and Merino happily cuddling with Satyrs as Kimihito was leaving. What's more, it is established that all the Ranch residents openly prefer being hand milked, regardless of who does it (hence why milk production increased in the first place) with the only exception being Satyrs milking each other as Saane considered it awkward for members of the same species to milk each other. Chimera-gui 16:56, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Admittedly, that´s partly true. But just because minotaurs like to be milked by hand, it does matter to them who milked them. Mil, Chizu, Cream, Cara and Urt were not among under the satyrs at the end of the manga, so it cannot be officially confirmed that they were milked by the satyrs. The rest of the Minotaurs and Pan had a sincere love for the Satyr girls, but with Cream, for example, it would be unlikely that she would let Nubi milk her due to their rivalry.
 * Them not being shown doesn't mean they that they weren't being milked off screen since the Satyrs learned Kimihito's technique. Also, you are aware that rivals to lovers is a common romance trope right? Especially when the rivalry is also clearly one-sided since it's Cream who sees Nubi as a rival whereas Nubi does not reciprocate the rivalry. Chimera-gui 23:26, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok you are right. I just thought it unlikely because of Mil's strong feelings about Kimihito, but personal belief isn´t necessarily the best guide on this matter. Officially, this can only be confirmed by Okayado, otherwise it is rather unnecessary to speculate about it, we cannot know for sure.


 * Speculation and conjecture are not inherently bad by themselves, the problem is that the wiki already has far too much unsourced and likely non-canon fluff in main pages making them unhelpful at best and detrimental at worst as it undermines the whole point of the wiki in the first place hence why said fluff needs to be jettisoned in favor of stuff actually from the source material. That said, Mil and Freesia don't necessarily have to enjoy Saane's perverted antics based on their visible embarrassment and it is likely that Merino and Cathyl don't allow the Satyrs to milk them since the pair are contracted workers rather than residents. Chimera-gui 05:09, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, once can also assumed that. I found it unlikely, because actually milking is a very personal thing, something you would only allow someone you trust sincerely. And if Mil is so embarrassed and uncomfortable, it´s questionable why she would allow the Satyr girls to milk her. Cathyl mentions in Chapter 59 that they still have the milking machines, so it would be likely that Cream, Cara, Chizu, Urt and Mil would use the milking machines. Because even if they don´t like the machines, it would be less uncomfortable than having someone milk they who they don´t trust. Do you personally think that is likely ?
 * I only said that Mil was embarrassed, not that she was uncomfortable. You can be embarrassed about something you enjoy, including sexual arousal. Additionally, it's worth remembering that the Minotaurs were only hostile towards Saane and her Satyrs when it came to Kimihito, otherwise it's implied that they are on good terms, even friendly based the end of chapter 59, with the Satyrs and may very well trust them when it comes to milking. In fact the only character to explicitly reject being milked by a Satyr is Saane herself and even then it was her fellow Satyrs that suggested it implying that at least some of them are likely receptive to being milked by each other. My point is that we should not assume something that is not outright stated in the source material cause it's entirely possible that your assumption is wrong and the Minotaurs actual do prefer being milked by the Satyrs over using the milking machines, including Cream, Cara, Chizu, Urt and Mil. Chimera-gui 04:25, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Pictures of male Liminals
Hello, Chimera-gui, when I was reading the end of Volume 11, I noticed a few pictures of male Liminals that could be added to the pages. I can´t show you the pictures, I don´t know how do do it, but I can named it.

1.) On the picture of Killa´s great embarrasment, there is a male Lizardmen with black hair to the right of Killa.

2.) On the picture where Killa threatens the other Liminals before she is approached by Rachnera (picture in Killa´s Gallery) next to Killa is a Liminal, which judging by the horns and the tail with a heartly tip is a male Elder Devil, althought he is not one has wings.

I just thought it would be a good idea to add these pictures since there are so few male Liminals in the mangas.
 * I'm not the one you should ask, that would be Netherith or Weredraco. Chimera-gui 04:25, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Why no male Liminals on the Black Lily Ranch
Hello Chimera-gui, I wanted to talk to you about the question of why there are no male Liminals on the Black Lily Ranch. Merino wiped out the question in Chapter 56, saying there were "a lot of reasons" for that. Here are a few reasons I suspect:

1.) Male Liminals do not give milk that could be sold for profit.

2.)Male Minotaurs are naturally more aggressive and if there were more they would fight against each other, especially in the presence of female Minotaurs.

3.)Male Minotaurs, Pan and Satyrs are by nature not so good at looking after the animals on a farm, especially the young ones, as they have not the protective mother instinct.

4.) I a community of mens and womans it would soon happen that two fall in love and of course a mother cannot be milked for profit for a long time because she needs the milk for her children.

Those are the reasons why I suspect there are no male Liminals on the Black Lily Ranch. Can yot think of another reason and what do you think of the reasons I suspect ?

Oh yes, another question: do you think it is possible that Pan and Satyrs can have children together? After all, there are also hybrids between goats and sheep.
 * You really shouldn't be bothering people about stuff when article comments are a thing but to answer your question:
 * This is the most likely reason since the Broker is clearly about profit.
 * While it's possible that the male Bullfighting Types are aggressive, the only male Minotaur to actually appear was fairly even tempered while conversing with a Kobold so this is likely a case-by-case thing. It's also worth noting that cattle bulls need to be properly socialized with other cattle as when they are raised with their own kind, they know who they are and they are less likely to think that people are part of the herd as thus won't try to exert dominance over them. While there is no such thing as a totally safe bull, the risk of an attack can be reduced with proper management: https://grandin.com/behaviour/principles/preventing.bull.accidents.html
 * This is another YMMV since men can be good at caring for animals so it's possible a male Minotaur, Pan and/or Satyr is just as good at looking after farm animals. A nurturing instinct might help but that's not exclusive to mothers.
 * It is worth noting that daily farms tend to have at least one bull on the premises since dairy cows must be bred and produce calves to maintain lactation meaning that none of the Minotaur women, or Pans and Satyrs for that matter, should be producing milk yet.
 * Your other question is largely gonna depend on the society Pan and Satyrs have since if the species live in close proximity to each other, crossbreeding seems quite likely since Liminal species don't seem to have the genetic barriers that prevent crossbreeding in the real world hence why Lamia, Harpies and Arachne reproduce by doing this with humans and how Centorea could be conceived by a human father. Chimera-gui 00:31, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. It was nice to finally be able to talk someone about it.

Lyca (Werewolf)
Character's bio outright states that she transforms into a wolf (like the werewolves of Twilight although probably not as big). Additionally her character speech files also state that she transforms into a wolf. Netherith (talk) 11:11, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * If Lyca canonically has a wolf form in addition to her default one like American Werewolf in London then fair enough, the werewolf page had fluff about them having five forms including human and beast which I assumed was wrong since all the werebeasts shown only seem to have a semi-humanoid beast man form with Kyuubi no Kitsune Werefoxes being the only werebeasts explicitly stated to be capable of shapeshifting. 16:08, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah. I'm just addressing you deleting the transformation info on the Lyca page, not the werewolf page. Just explaining my re-edit. Actually I'm surprised you didn't delete the estrus info instead of the transformation info. If anything was going to be unconfirmed-canon I would have chosen that (it is game-canon, though. The werecats have it.). Netherith (talk) 02:53, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I have an easier time believing that werebeasts have a estrus cycle given MonMusu's nature as a series and how other liminal species behave based on their animalistic physiology whereas we've already seen that vampires as a species have been stripped of supernatural characteristics so werewolves undergoing a similar treatment seems almost guaranteed. 09:22, 27 November 2020 (UTC)